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Dave: You know, I was thinking the other day in my heist to do my inaugural show that I’ve failed to number one kind of explain to the new listeners to my show, and forgive me, those that are following me for sometimes, but what the show Clarity from Chaos is really about is start helping the individual climb up at the primordial ooze and start living again and dial back to quite noise that’s out there and to start listening to their own inner voices and start becoming their full potential.
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Now several weeks ago, I did a show on what I consider probably one of the most interesting topics that have come across for a long time and it’s part of a seven part series quite frankly by gentlemen by the name of Jerry Spence and for those of you younglings out there, that don’t know who Jerry Spence is, he is a very, very famous defense Attorney and actually made a very, very big name from himself-defending Karen Silkwood and her family back in the, I believe it was in the ‘70s against manufacturer Kerr-McGee. The Silkwood family was award a $10 million settlement in the case.
Jerry has written several books but one of the books we’re going to start talking about tonight and the one I started talking about several weeks ago is the book that he wrote called “Seven Simple Steps to Personal Freedom.”

Now, in that book are seven topics obviously and the first one being slavery. Now, when I mention the word ‘slavery’, you know everybody immediately jumps to what the common term slavery would immediately bring images to the mind, civil war, slave ships, black speaking cat and so on and so forth but I’m not talking about the obviously slavery. I’m talking about the slavery that we all live with either physical or mental on our day-to-day lives.
Now, you’re going to sit back in your chair and you’re going to say “I’m not a slave” but I want you to think about it, I want you to think really hard about saying that “You’re not a slave” and start to look around and start to identify the things that you go to work to support that you probably were really don’t need.
For example, a television, a BMW, as oppose to me on just some vehicle that it can get you back and go for the work and so on and so forth. I mean my God, ladies and gentlemen there are entire industries that have been built around convincing you of things that you need and in so of convincing you things that you need, you’ve also become a slave to those things. So I want you to start thing about it.

A really good example that I have talked about almost constantly is being a slave to technology. We have absolutely become slaves to technology. I mean, my God, I was in the restaurant Saturday, took my wife out to lunch as a precursor to Mother’s Day, and there was a couple standing on the doorway waiting to be seated. The wife had her cellphone out checking her email messages, the husband had his cellphone out checking his email messages and I looked at them and I said “You two know each other?” and they kind of looked at me that weird and I said “I tell you, why don’t you just text hello to the lady next to you?” and you know obviously the gentlemen didn’t find it very funny but that’s exactly what we’ve gotten ourselves into. Ant it’s funny this whole thing kind of sound after I challenged them, they immediately put their cellphones away and started talking to each other. I mean, heaven forbid, that we can actually talk to each other.
Now there’s a whole generation of millennial’s out there, that buy telephones to do nothing but text with that for some reason haven’t figure out that they can put their voice into that little box and their voice miraculously moves to another box and it’s picked up by another little box and somebody can listen to it. Then figure that part it, they just do this some exercise crap that they do and created this whole new language and text each other. In a part of the reason that they do that and I’m firmly convinced and I believe there’s a lot of resource boxes up is they do it because they’re afraid to conflict and they’re afraid of rejection and they are afraid of a lot of different things that not having to interact from a communication standpoint with anybody takes completely out of the picture but that’s obviously a topic for a different show.

And we will get into it later on, in the month of June, a good friend of mine and Ms. Jude Bijou who has written a fabulous book called “Attitude reconstruction” will be on. So we’ll talk about these things at that time but right now, what I want to talk about is I want to talk about slavery. Now the interesting about slavery and this is probably going to piss a lot of you people off. The interesting about slavery is the fact that we really don’t want to be free because freedom requires responsibility.

Now you have enough a lot of talk show host around the country, a lot of political individuals around the country trying to figure out how to engage the populous, as far as the political process and why it just doesn’t seem the work, I mean you know, everybody thought that the last election cycle was pretty much a done deal and turned out to be that way. Well, personally I’m convinced that the whole issue here is we really don’t want freedom, we give at lip service, we talk about it all the time but we’re scared to death of actually being free.

So what I want you to think about and what Jerry talks about in his book which quite frankly like I said is extremely well-written, and I think would help a lot of people is the first thing that we need to do is recognize that A, we are slaves, that we are slaves all these different things and that if we had freedom, and responsibility around this stuff, that our lives would actually be a lot better but again we’re going to have to accept the responsibility for it.
Now, I can give you a perfect example of this whole concept of not really wanting freedom. And all I have to do is point my finger at the now TSA. In the aftermath of the tragic consequences of 911, our entire country is being held hostage by several thousand individuals. So what you have here, people, is 260 million people being held hostage by several thousand terrorists. So what we’ve done is we completely given up all of our freedoms related to air travel to a bureaucracy that claims to keep us safe.

Now, is there anybody out there that actually for one nanosecond believes that the TSA can keep you safe? Because if there is, I would love to hear from you. All this has really done is created more government bureaucracy, but it’s just perception, ladies and gentlemen.
The absolute perception and I’ll give you just an interesting hint, there’s this whole concept right now that’s going on about global warming and there’s a gentleman by the name of Edward Bernays. Now, probably many of you don’t know who Edward Bernays is but he is been considered the father of public relations. He wrote the book on Propaganda and it was so well-received that the Germans used it during the Second World War.
At the end of the Second World War, Bernays recognized that the Word ‘Propaganda’ was probably not the proper word so he changed that to public relations. Now, Edward Bernays is the gentlemen that remarkably brought you the whole issue of women smoking because up until into the 30’s and 40’s, women didn’t particularly smokes cigarettes but Edward Bernays figured out that if he introduces a sex along with smoking cigarettes then it would become very, very stylish and low and behold cigarette companies paid him an awful lot of money and got a whole group of people that smoke cigarettes.
Edward Bernays also used his talents to have overthrown a several governments during the 50’s as well, but the reason I bring Bernays up and we can talk about Bernays and we can talk about the Allegory of the Cave with Plato and everything else, but the reason I bring it up is because of the importance of words, and the way that these words are used to enslave people. Unfortunately, people don’t even see it coming, they don’t question the truth of the information, and they just believe it to be true.

Now, here’s a quote before I bring our guest on and our guest tonight is going to spend the rest of the show actually talking about slavery. My dear friend Dr. Richard London is going to bring in a bunch of key insights that will help you begin to recognize this whole slavery issue and how you can start freeing yourself from the bonds. But I want you to remember this quote, and I’m probably going to reemphasize it toward the end of the show. But this is from Eric Fromm, “Man for himself in 1947, “Man’s main task in life is to give birth to himself to become what he potentially is.”
Now, I want you to kind of sit on that and think about it because it’s pretty profound and that’s what this whole show is about, is to help you become your full potential.

Now, my guest is Dr. Richard London. He’s a renowned author and business consultant. On top of that, he is one of my dearest friends. He runs a business intelligent and coaching business. He’s one of the prominent leaders in the world in that particular regard and he provides all kinds of interesting tools that can help you move forward in the 21st century. Dr. London, how are you?

Dr. R: Wonderful day. Wonderful to hear you voice and be with you this evening. By the way, Edward lived a 103 years.
Dave: Yep.
Dr. R: Imagine that. He was born in November 22, 1891 and died March 9, 1995.
Dave: Yeah. And I didn’t even mention that his one of his relatives is Dr. Sigmund Freud, who is his uncle.
Dr. R: Yeah. He died in Cambridge Massachusetts. He was from Austria, but imagine going through that period from 1891 to all the way to almost the end of the 20th century.
Dave: Right. Yes pretty amazing. When I spoke with Dr. Jerome Corsi a few weeks ago, he told me that Bernays was actually a friend of Corsi’s the family. So he got to basically sit at the dinner table with Bernays as he was growing up.
Dr. R: You know, a person who lives over hundred years, that’s a way above human standards as the majority people know it so what kept him alive? What kept him alive, he wasn’t a slave to life.
Dave: Exactly.
Dr. R: And he constantly had things to do. His mind was very active and that’s very important thing in the life that we lived. Our mind should always be active not with what I called trash. Trash would be worries, stress, thinking about your bills, thinking about what’s wrong to your relationship with your girlfriend or your boyfriend or whatever. Those are slave’s thought. And I’m here to say just a few minutes of you know, everything in the world is about language and humans have enslaved themselves to the language that they have created in their lives.
So you can be a slave to your career, to your house, to your family, to a sport. And when you’re enslave, that means you’re giving your power away to some other things or someone and we don’t want to give our power way, still we live in …go ahead.
Dave: I was just going to say and people are lined up at the door to take that power from you. The sadness is we’re on the other side of the door shoveling it out at the door as fast as we can shovel.
Dr. R: Absolutely.
Dave: So it doesn’t make any sense.
Dr. R: No. It doesn’t making a sense whatsoever. So Louis Bernays was a thinker okay. So I want your listeners out there to think but I want you to put great thoughts in your mind and free yourself from being a slave to your career, being a slave to your house. Here is an example of how humans are slave to their house. They live in a particular part of the United States where it’s very costly to live in that city. So they live in a million dollar plus home so they have to produce income every month to meet those particular obligations based on that one enslaving decision. “I have to live in New York City. I have to live in San Francisco. I have to live in Boston.” This quite expensive cities but see what frees you from that particular obligation is basically just change your words, all you have to do is say “There has to be a place in the world that I can live and really be happy and it’s lot more cost-effective.” You know, a lot of people move to Las Vegas, do you have any friends in Las Vegas?
Dave: Yeah. I sure do.
Dr. R: And they moved to Las Vegas and they move to Arizona because the cost of living is less and so their money goes further. When your money is going further, it means you’re not a slave any longer. I would have to say let’s see over 90% of the people in the world today are slave to something.
Dave: I would say at least 90% but the sad part about it is, they come by at honestly because their parents were slaves. Our educational system is set up to our basically brow these people and sets them up first for slavery. Because it knocks all the creativity and innovation out of most people and there’s so much time and efforts spent by Madison Avenue could linking people into desiring things that you and I both know, will not make them happy but you know they’ve convinced people that they can’t be happy if they’re not driving a BMW. They can’t be happy to a point, they’re not living in Bellaire. They can’t be happier if they’re not living on Madison Avenue. They can’t be happy for this or for that. It’s all be-as and people have been sold this bill of goods. And I think it’s up to people, like you and I to basically draw a line in the sand and say “Enough of this.” Stick your head up and start looking at the truth of all of this.
Dr. R: You know I think the key words in life today are acronyms, TLC and TME. The way you can start to moving out of slavery is really treat your life with tender, loving care, TLC because when you are enslaving yourself, you’re basically abusing yourself and when you’re abusing yourself you can’t be authentic.
The other acronym is TME, Time, Money and Energies. We need to spend time, money and energies in creating a great life for ourselves. My parents, they lived their lives fatalistically. So when you’re living a life fatalistically, whatever happens just happens. So you really know an active participant in your life, my parents really learnt than that of participant. They just let the life unfolds just a way it was; they didn’t try to change anything. They didn’t try to alter anything, they didn’t think about how they could better their lives. They just go deep into whatever they credit the language that they credit. So they were true slaves to their life. Do they think they were slave to their life? No
Dave: No, mindedly no.
Dr. R: We live in the world now where it’s more wisdom-based, you the internet, you have people like David. You have people like myself and no one in the world should expect a great life if they don’t give their life TLC and TME Time, Money and Energies. I figured out, I invested five million dollars in creating my great life. So what is a great life looks like? First of all it’s easy. A great life is easy, it’s fun, it has no stress, and it has an absolute freedom. The problem is what does absolute freedom look like? David, what does absolute freedom look to you from the great wisdom that you’ve learned in the past years? What is absolute freedom look like? So the listeners will know.
Dave: Well, it’s first off is following your own voice and not buying into the many people that are standing around, just wanting the wiz in your mess kit. It’s following your dreams; it’s making the connection between your head and your heart and following that path without regard to what other people think, without regard to the expectations of other people.
Dr. R: I agree. See everyone who exists on earth, we create our own life, our own dream or what I call our own illusion. So if you want to create an illusion let it be in a healthy illusion and then has to have great language. It’s a language in each person, the language we express that creates absolute freedom. When I walk down the street any place in the world, I know what’s going on to my right, to my left at my foot level, at the top of my head and everything around me and that’s because when I walk, I say “I’m connected with everything that exist in the world.” So when you say yourself you’re connected, guest what? And you believed it, you become connected.
And when you become connected, that means you make powers and one thing about the world we lived in is my parents’ world, there was very little divine connection or intervention on people’s lives. People lives are unfolding just a way it was supposed to unfold. Now, in the world in 24th century in 2014, there’s lot of Devine connection and intervention. What does that mean? That means there’s increased energy around every human being, to help human beings move out of human slavery.
See the slavery process has lasted for 26 thousand years. The cycle is called the Yuga. So Yuga is 26 thousand year-cycle, so the reason your listeners out there are many of you are in slavery is because you’re at the tail end of this 26 thousand year-cycle and at the beginning of a new Yuga. But the different spin doesn’t do Yuga is filled with greater opportunities. The greater ability to create heaven on earth. So when you’re in slavery, you’re enslaved in many years in your life. The flipside to being in slavery is you’re living heaven on earth. Imagine we really creating heaven on earth, if it possible I live it.
Dave: Yeah. But I’m just wondering and it we’re getting ready to come up on a break here in the second. I’m just wondering though we can talk about it and I’m sure that there are people out there listening to us Dr. London. But getting them to conjure up the will to alter their circumstance, you know, to step back from feeling like they’re a victim and feeling like being they are constantly being kicked in the teeth all the time. And taking the step back and making the different choice is difficult because, as you and I both know, it’s like walking into a dark room. You know, you have to have faith that there is going to be a light in a dark room and you know, the boogieman is not going to come up and snatch right out of there. You know what I mean? And think what were people are right now is they’re just scared as hell and they don’t know how they get in and out of that dark room.
Dr. R: Well, when we come back from the break, I will give your listeners concrete ways that they can move out of fear and fear is false motions appearing real and slowly move out of slavery into the greater process which we call now creating your heaven and earth. That’s it.
Dave: Yeah. I think I would like to do that because I know that there are a lot of people out there that are just scared to death but could use a little nudge. You know what I mean? And before the show is over obviously we’re going to chat how people can get in touch with this so you can personally help them with a little bit of a nudge but as soon as we come back from the break, let’s start down that path so we can start helping those folks out.
Dr. R: That would be wonderful.
Dave: Alright, terrific.
Dave: Welcome back everybody. If you’ve just tuned in on the fabulous Double Wide Network app, we’re talking with my very dear friend Dr. Richard London and the topic tonight is slavery. How to break those bonds, how to throw those chains away and start realizing and living to your full potential. So before we left for the break, I brought up the topic about, now I wouldn’t say relatively easy things to do but initiatives that you can start using to not only recognize your own slavery but to start helping you move away from that. So let’s give in some information Dr. London.
Dr. R: Okay. First of all, we have to deal with certain symptoms. The reason people are living in human slavery is they don’t know they’re in slavery, they’re scared, they’re not ready to make changes are a big reason; they don’t have a money necessary to create changes in their life. So let’s deal with a money issue, seems to be a big issue. When a person is not moving ahead, they say “I don’t have the money.” Now, in a world where you’re not enslaved, everything is abundant. So what does that mean that everything is abundant? It means you have the capabilities of creating whatever it is you want in the form of wealth.
The beauty of 2000, the 21sth century in 2014 is that if you want to create a million dollars, you can do it in week. If you want to create a hundred million dollars, you could do it in months. If you want to create a billion dollars, you could do it in a year or two years. It just depends on how that you want it in your particular life and so one of the easiest ways to move out of slavery is to stop the preoccupation with money because money is the problem and not the solution.
The solution is your creative talents that you have inside. We all have creativity and it’s understanding those creativities and the creative talents that you have and turn those passions into the creative process of wealth.
So again money is your problem, the solution is your creative passions and turning those creative passions into wealth. An example, a person who has artistic abilities, they move their level of creative arts from a level of say 1-10, from a level of 1-2 and they move it in the 10 range. And then they start selling their paintings or their artwork for thousands and then tens of thousands. And then even the possibility of a million dollars.
I met a gentlemen years ago, he did a painting, he was a living artist and he was paid 20 million dollars to paint a mirror for a very wealthy chick. Now in human standard, a living artist to be paid 12 million dollars, everyone would say “That’s impossible” but he wasn’t living in slavery, he wasn’t living in the problem of money.”Money is stopping me. Money is stopping me.” In your life that maybe you said to yourself “I don’t have the money necessary to do something so therefore it stops you in the tracks.
Dave: Well, I’ve made obviously, I made the comment I don’t have the money from or whatever. Now, I don’t know that, since I’m such a bull-headed SOB, I don’t know that it stops me. I figure out a different path to get where I needed to get to but I have made the statement that “I can’t afford this, I can’t afford that.” Go ahead.
Dr. R: So here’s what you did David, when you made that statement you close your wealth door so it might have taken you a day, a week, a moth, a year, five years, ten years the door eventually opened up because you changed your language. So listeners out there, you know, change your language, change your life. So one of the easiest thing is to step away from money, move into your creative passions and change your language and you have to realize that when a person says “I don’t have the money for something”, you do close your wealth door. Because life is made of a variety doors, you have a love door, you have wealth door, you have a wellness door, and you have a spirituality door so we have a number of doors that we pass through every day of our life.
One of the big doors that you have to accept is change so listeners out day if you say “Change is okay.” Because believe it or not every second, every minute, every hour, everyday we’re actually changing out of that space so you have to acknowledge the change is good. So what makes change good and some change not so good? It’s based on the language that you use in the change process. There’s so much good that we can create in this world. Don’t pay so much attention to all the negative thoughts that’s going on in this world. If you truly want to be free of slavery, you have to separate yourself from a lot of negative media.
Dave: That’s true you have to turn down the dial on the white noise but I want to throw out of a little bit and you and I have talked about this for the listeners. There’s been, and it’s several years ago but the recent study of how language can absolutely alter your DNA. So when you make the comment that change your language, change your life which I agree with 100%. There’s research to back up this whole concept it not just the platitude that language actually has a direct link to your DNA.
Dr. R: Before there were words, there were sounds or vibration, those sounds and vibration eventually became a language in the words that are used by mankind on a global basis. So the name David, the name Richard, the word money actually has a very low vibration but the word wealth and abundance, you could say it all day wealth abundance. It is very powerful but the word money is not very powerful but it’s used by hundreds of millions of people on a regular basis and certain part of the world is probably one of the most used words in a world.
In a word that should be used the most is wealth abundance because this is reality we’re really living then. You listeners out there, you know tomorrow when you wake up, you look out in your garden, you look up the sky, you will see billions of plants, insects, trees, everything growing and changing which proves that the world is abundant because you see change taking place instantaneously but you don’t see money. Yeah. That’s an expression, money grows on trees, money doesn’t grow on trees but in reality it does because the money that you use on the world today is paper money and paper…
Dave: There you go.
Dr. R: Yeah. So I really remember what my parents saying that word all the time. Money doesn’t grow on trees, money doesn’t grow on trees. People are starving in other countries but they were lying so wealth and abundance that’s where does it grows all over you. So step out on your box, look at the areas that you might be enslaved to at your career, to your family and not to say that it isn’t good to love your family. You could love to the max but you could also enslave your family because you love them so much.
That’s an expression that I learned at the young age, you can actually love someone to death. Yeah. You love them so much that you forget how to really care for the particular person. So the slavery that’s going on in the world, you have to care for yourself so the first things if you say this up “Okay, no more slavery from me, I’m going to change my life, it’s going to be an abundant life, it’s going to be a life filled with wellness things start to change.” So one of the things that you listeners need to know change takes place from your heart. Your heart is the place that your remote control, it has the most to man of energy that can create electromagnetic energy.
So electromagnetic energy creates atoms, David, you’re made out of atoms, I made out of atoms. Everything in the world is made out of atoms. So the stronger we get in creating our heaven on earth guess what that means? That means we’re producing a lots electromagnetic energy. And then our language changes, and then our vibration energy changes, and then everything start to click. And then you can create little miracles, medium-size miracles in your life and then big miracles. David had been creating a lot of miracles in his life because he understands energy and he doesn’t want to be a slave to his life.
Dave: Yeah.
Dr. R: You know, we live in a world that sort of out of our control so the only way that we can have any as semblance of control is guess how? Is to release this energy. The most powerful people in the world and the most powerful machines in the world release energy, remember that. If you want to be powerful, it doesn’t mean you have to take the power in. The most powerful machine, the most powerful humans in the world, it’s our release process. When you’re releasing these aspects of human slavery guess what David, you become more powerful right?
Dave: Yeah.
Dr. R: Yeah. Is this process of humans not only are they enslaving people, but they’re trying to possess power so they trying to take power from other people, they’re trying to take power with money. Yes, but when you release it, it comes back to you in greater abundance. That’s why you see some of the richest people in the world; they’re giving their money away. They might give a billion dollars away and all of a sudden the company grows ten billions or five billion because this is a natural law. The more you release of a positive nature, the more it turns to you in a positive nature. The more you release to a negative nature, the more returns to you into a negative nature.
So this human’s slavery, I don’t want to see one person in the future enslaved to anything and I don’t think your listeners really want to be enslaved. It’s just the process of life. So we’re at end to a big cycle so you’ve chosen the big in this world today because it’s an interesting time and it could be lots of fun because you’re at the end of the cycle that lasted 26,000 years and you’re here, and you’re here at the beginning of the cycle and this cycle is about easy, it’s about fun, it’s about creating wealth and abundance, it’s about supersizing your life, it’s about freedom, it’s about authenticity, it’s about wellness. So these are words that you hear from a lot of people but you may not know how to create these things in your life. Is to create a process difficult? No. TLC, TME these are important letters. Guess. These people are slaves to their lives are really not treating themselves well?.
Dave: I’ll throw another one out there and that’s TWA- Thoughts, Words and Action.
Dr. R: Right. Yeah. Thoughts, Words and Action, You know you brought up an interesting Thought, Words and Action in a world we live in, the majority of people right now are what I call boxing with God. So what they are doing is their minds are out there, their thoughts are calling them not to be able to create what they want in their lives because it never gets to a point where they’re taking positive action. It’s like a broken record, it’s playing the same part of the song over and over and over and that’s what happening to mankind. They have these broken records to these broken thoughts but they never move into, I called it meeting God.
Dave: They better be careful they’re going to catch a left hook.
Dr. R: Right. See you have to meet yourself, I want to meet yourself all you have to do is take some positive action and guest what David?
Dave: Yeah.
Dr. R: The door opens up.
Dave: Yeah.
Dr. R: Nobody’s door is closed permanently in the world. Listeners, no one’s doors. So if you’re not boxing with God then you just to meet where you are and then you’ll take a step of a positive nature, a positive action and then guess what happens, the door opens for you and you go magic.
Dave: Well, as always we’re at the end of our discussion again. Why don’t you let everybody know, I haven’t paste to that on my landing page but why don’t you let everybody know how to get in touch with you in case, the stuff that they’ve heard tonight, they want to reach out and start taking steps with this?
Dr. R: The thoughts expressed tonight and you want to be free of slavery and you want to create abundance and wealth, you can go to the website drrichardlondon.com drrichardlondon.com or richardlondon.com, it goes to the same place. You can even email me at RichardaLondon@gmail.com if you have any questions. So it’s RichardaLondon@gmail.com. And I want to leave your listeners with a last great thought is that life is all about you, individually listeners, not in a egotistical manger but in a heart-centered manner. So the happy you are, the happier the life you create for your family, for everyone around and especially for yourself. So remember to be heart-centered. And wealth and abundance is really close the door we live in. I appreciate you having me here David with you.
Dave: You know I love you.
Dr. R: I love you too. Have a great evening.
Dave: Alright bud, bye.
Dr. R: Take care. Bye

Dave: There you go folks. You can take some really positive steps to start shedding the cocoon that you may have wrapped yourself with. Next week I have a fabulous author, Mr. Richard Greenberg who’s written a terrific book on “How to Raise Children” and I think it’s going to be well worth your time to maybe listen in and be able to ask Mr. Greenberg some questions. It’s going to be a terrific show. I want to thank you so much for listening. It’s been real treat and I want to remind you like I said before “Man’s main task in life is to give birth to himself and to become what he potentially is”. We’re going to leave you with the bronze radio return and will see you next Monday night. Take care, everybody.

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